Cool feature, innovative. Need instructions.
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 00:37 — bwoods
This is really an innovative feature--if I can just figure out exactly how it is to be used. Some instructions would be nice.
The best I can tell is it is somewhat of a different form of bookmark. But I can't get it to stick to a certain spot, like say the TOC to the Hymns. It always sets the tab at wherever I go in the Hymns. I figured to add a blank tab to keep where my current tabs are located and leave the blank one to wander.
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I'd like to get some feedback
I'd like to get some feedback from all of you on the Hide Tabs button.
Would you rather have it where it is now, but have it be more transparent, or would you rather have me move it up into the tab bar area next the tabs menu button?
With the upcoming higher resolution devices, it would make some sense to move it up next to the menu button, but I'm concerned about taking up more space there.
Any other ideas?
I like the hide tabs button
I like the hide tabs button where it is but more transparent would let those who do not use the auto hide to see more. Not using the auto hide makes it so you lose the top two rows of text even if you move the move the hide tabs button up a row, why not just leave them hid until you need them and not have them block the reading area. If you use the auto hide the only time you have the tabs in view is when you want to select a tap and it would be nice to have an option to see all twenty tabs in a grid when you pull them down and then auto hide when you select the one you want. But please move the view tabs button a little to the left.
I love the True Tabs! And
I love the True Tabs! And the more I think about a grid tabs mode the more I like it. If you had a pull down page with a 4 by 6 grid, you could have the twenty tabs, the tab name button, a hide button, a back to last tab button, and a grid tab edit button to allow rearranging the tabs in the grid. This grid tabs mode would be so nice to use that I would like an option to have it come up when you start the app, as this would let you with one tap and no scrolling, go right to the place you want to be.
I like it the way it is. If
I like it the way it is. If anything, I'll agree with someone who said to make it translucent. Otherwise, I think it is fine.
Can we make it a gesture
Can we make it a gesture instead of a tab? So when tabs are hidden make it work like it currently does, but when the tabs are visible can you make a two finger (or some other gesture) upward swipe hide the tabs, and not show the hide tab button ever. It would be best if we could make a gesture work both ways. 2 fingers down shows and 2 fingers up hides. if it complicates the pinch to resize text I say ditch that as it isn't function with its lag, and can be set in the settings.
Either way you must move the hide tabs button as it will get in the way on the iPad or Tablet thing that gets announced tomorrow, seeing that many will keep the tabs visible since they will have the screen space to do so.
I like it where it is, and it
I like it where it is, and it looks fine, but I wish the tap response area included the time area as I sometimes have to tap a few time to get a response and I have to keep telling myself to tap below the tab arrow and not on it, to get it to drop down.
Unfortunately I don't think
Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to include the time area, but you can tap on the little button or anywhere underneath it in the title area. For example, you can tap anywhere within the red rectangle in the following picture:
Just aim for the middle of the rectangle and you should be fine.
The only exceptions are on the search screen and when you're using the iteration feature (iterating through bookmarks, search results, etc). In those two cases you must tap on the actual button and not below it because of the search entry field and the up/down buttons that will be in the same area as the drop down button.
I love the TrueTabs but I
I love the TrueTabs but I wish you could move the pull-down tab (or hide tab) a half tab to the left so that I do not keep pulling down the tabs while looking thru the bookmarks or search results.
Guess I'm a little slow, but
Guess I'm a little slow, but I could really use a tutorial or instructions, including some examples of ways to use TrueTabs. It looks great, but I don't think I am really utilizing the features to the fullest.
Sweet! I like it a lot! But
Sweet! I like it a lot! But like others only got the hang of it and understood it by reading what was posted here. I turned on autohide yesterday thinking the tabs would just go away once I started scrolling on the screen and such but they diddn't so I assumed it was a bug but I see now that it closes when you select a new tab, cool!
My 2 cents, take it for what ever you like, the UI on the tabs doesn't fit the app. as mentioned above when I first DL'ed the update I knew some kind of tabs were coming and when I saw it I thought they were big, but now that I see that the top title is the home for that tab I like the size. But I still dont think the "Hide Tabs" tab needs to really be there at all, but if it must be there make it like 80% translucent. Same with the settings tab on the far right just not jiving as far as the UI but the idea is awesome!!!! Love TRUE TABS!
I'm glad you like it! I
I'm glad you like it!
I definitely agree that we could improve the graphics and we'll work on it in the future.
Can we also get the ability
Can we also get the ability to hold on a link and have a choice to open the link in a new tab?
Ok so hold on a link will not
Ok so hold on a link will not work cause that starts copy and paste. but once a link is selected and the footnote window opens at the bottom can we get the option to open in a new window. maybe that wont work for all links but we need some way to open links in a new tab.
I'll also quickly add that
I'll also quickly add that there a new setting named: Auto-hide Tabs. If you turn it on, whenever you select a new tab the tab bar will automatically scroll up for you. I personally prefer it that way, but if you're doing a lot of switching back and forth between tabs you may not want it on.
I'll work on getting a
I'll work on getting a tutorial out in the next day or two, but just quickly the ability to set a new home page is especially useful if you look up content in the same area a lot. For example, you can set a tab's home to the bible dictionary page (where you select the letter of the item you're looking for), and then name the tab something like BD (the only purpose of the name is so you can quickly visually identify the tab). Now, whenever you navigate down through the bible dictionary looking up definitions, viewing reverences, etc. anytime you tap on the Home button you are taken right back to the start of the BD. I hope that makes sense.
My first priority is getting some of the issues fixed that were discovered in the 3.0 update.
Ditto, needs instructions.
Ditto, needs instructions. Looks like it might be cook though. I don't understand the "home" concept even with the text, since it doesn't seem to be doing it. I saw it like the temporary browsing idea in Sunday School where they ask you to jump back and forth between scriptures, or as an alternative to bookmarks for say a talk. I like how it gets out of the way when hidden, but I am going to hurt someone's feelings when I say that I am not too fond of the color scheme and the drop down UI; it doesn't look like its part of the same product.
TrueTabs are great! You can
TrueTabs are great! You can set one for "Gospel Doctrine" class, one for "Priesthood" lesson, one for your personal reading in "Book of Mormon", one for personal reading in "NT", one for "Mormon Doctrine" for reference, one for "Bookmarks" if you are working back and forth to some folder, etc.. The tab will remember were you are reading each week in your classes, remember where you stopped your last personal reading or let you make a quick trip to Mormon Doctrine in 'My Library', etc.. It is great to jump back to home, to go search a scripture and then jump back to your current class manual or to your personal reading location. Once you have opened a document like "Mormon Doctrine" the tab will take you there fast with no open time, it is great for moving around fast while studying various subjects. JUST MAKE SURE you leave your spot you want to save for that tab by going to a new tab or to the home tab, if you go to any area other than what you have labeled your tab while you have that tab selected and then go to another tab you may save your 'Priesthood' lesson tab at the home position for example. The "home" tab, 'the blue one', will auto change its label to show you what scripture you have looked up, or where ever you go, and allow you to go back to it from another tab, and it will be relabeled to "home" when you use the home key at the bottom left if you have the blue tab selected. You can also have many auto labeling tabs if you want, by adding a tab and setting it as a home tab.
Saw the video Also played
Saw the video
Also played around with it more. You are right, Mavin10. Your comments are a good use of TrueTabs. Here is a summary:
1. A bookmark replacement of sorts like Mavin10 said. Have one for all your different readings like personal, family, priesthood. Although you should be careful about jumping around since the tab "follows" you around. An example of this "weakness", let's say you have a tab for Sunday School and it is following you like it is designed to do. Then the instructor asks you to jump to another scripture for a few moments, which you do. The tab has followed you there and no longer is with the main reading. Another way to mis-navigate that happens to me is when I hit the "back" button or one of the other buttons in the top navigation bar.
2. A history replacement of sorts. Take the same Sunday School scenario, but this time instead of first jumping to the other passage, you quickly create another tab and with that one go to the other passage. This is kind of nice since the [+] operation takes you to the app home screen which is where you usually want to go to start navigating. The upside with this is that you have a "bookmark" set to that new passage that you can later return to for further follow up.
3. A jump off anchor. Setting the home button before exploring allows you to jump back to where you set it. You can set this up separately for each tab it seems. Way cool and useful!
TrueTabs can be a very helpful feature, and I will try to incorporate it into my usage, but I think I would probably use the bookmark feature for keeping track of different readings. Many times I have accidentally mis-navigated to say, the home screen, and must "work" to get back (for some reason, the history feature fails to stop working just when I need it). This is why myself and others have asked for a "cancel" button on the home screen to take us back to where we were, but if there are already bugs in the history mechanism, I don't think a "cancel" feature will work any more reliably.
Other improvement to the TrueTab feature:
* I would use is to highlight the "home" button differently when in use with the TrueTab feature. You can set the "home" different for each tab which is great because it allows you to set an "anchor" to the tab which might help in mis-navigations. But I don't know which tab has the home feature set and which ones do not. There is no way I can remember if I set them, nor where I set them (was it the beginning of this week's lesson or was it last week's lesson). At least highlighted in an alternate manner tells me it has been set.
* A way to turn off the TrueTabs feature. Yes, it may be the greatest feature of all time (according to Marketing), but some people may not like it or use it, and to them, the subtle show tabs button is just something distracting on their screen and a land mine waiting to be stepped on.
* Ability to turn off set/clear home tab information notification feature. Great for training. Now it is annoying, but there does need to be some feedback about the home tab being set or cleared (see first bullet point).
Once again, thank you, Mavin10, for a nice use case for this feature that I hadn't fully realized. I hope it will be helpful to me and to others.
OK, using it more. Sort of
OK, using it more. Sort of getting the hang of it. Pretty slick feature. Still would like some instructions or a help file. Is the main purpose of tabs for browsing, like going back and forth references in Sunday School? If so, I need to be taught how to fully navigate as the place marker changes for the tab.
Yes, it is to allow you to
Yes, it is to allow you to have multiple places open at once. The name in the middle of the tab (subtitle) automatically updates as you navigate around so you can quickly see the contents that are displayed in each tab.
The name (title) you can assign to each tab is for your use and never gets updated. It's so you can have tabs for certain content and find it quickly.